Donna is a mother of six, a grandmother of 24—including me—and a great-grandmother of 29. She’s also a dancer, a storyteller, and a poet.

She’s delightful and hilarious and quite spicy—I even had to censor her to keep my clean rating—and she gave such interesting insights into what motherhood used to be like that I just had to share her with you.

Perhaps the most interesting insight came when I asked Donna about mom guilt. She didn’t answer at first, just kind of got a puzzled look on her face, like she didn’t understand the question. She definitely had not heard the term before.